"For Old Times' Sake"
V #17 (DC Comics)
Written by Paul Kupperberg
Pencils by Denys Cowan
Inks by Dick Giordano and Arne Starr
Cover by ?
Resistance comes into possession of a Visitor code tape,
smuggled from a mothership; the Visitors stumble onto a
counteragent for the red dust.
In one of the resistance's captured Visitor
skyfighters, Donovan and Julie search for and find a Visitor
communications center in the farmland outside L.A. and destroy
it with the ship's guns. But two Visitor patrol fighters are
also nearby and pursue them. Donovan turns the tables and
destroys one and damages the other. But the damaged fighter
turns the tables again and damages the humans' craft. A final
turnaround allows Donovan to hit the enemy fighter again and it
crashes into the snowy mountains where the red dust will finish
off the occupants.
In Los Angeles, Willie, Chris, and Tyler are
cleaning up the debris of the Club Creole wreckage (from
"Reflections in Terror").
A resistance member from another group finds them there and
leaves them a computer tape of access codes for the mothership.
He is being pursued by the Visitors, so he must hide the tape
with them while he flees.
On the mothership, Diana learns of the pursuit
and deduces that the fleeing human must have left the tape with
the local resistance members suspected of hiding out in Club
Creole in the past. She determines to handle the retrieval
operation personally. Meanwhile, a Visitor officer named Joshua
informs her of the crashed patrol in the mountains and wants to
retrieve the bodies for autopsy to study the effects of the red
dust. She gives him permission to retrieve the corpses.
In the mountains, it turns out the two Visitors
in the crashed fighter have survived. They were found almost
immediately by two men named Frank and Jack from a nearby
isolated commune that does not know of the Visitors' evil plans
for Earth. They care for the two injured aliens at the crash
site, feeding them an herbal broth from the commune that appears
to be protecting them from the red dust. Soon, Joshua's shuttle
arrives to investigate the site and the Visitors are able to con
the two humans into thinking they are benevolent and ask them to
accompany them back to the mothership.
Back at the ruins of Club Creole, Elias is found
by an old flame named Leslie. It turns out she now works for
Science Frontiers and is looking for the stolen Visitor access
codes tape. Elias gets angry when he learns this, figuring she
is just using him again to find the tape. He tells her to leave
and, reluctantly, she does.
On the mothership, Diana treats Frank and Jack
hospitably, for now. She does, however, order Loren to dissect
the two surviving Visitors to learn how the herbal broth was
able to protect them. After his study, Loren believes the herb
can be duplicated in the laboratory and will bestow permanent
resistance to the red dust to any Visitor who ingests it.
CONTINUED IN V #18.
This issue was the second-to-last issue of the comic book
published. This issue and the next were a flashback story taking
place before the burning of the open city, hence the issue
numbers (17 and 18) seem out of place in my
Page 1 mentions that agriculture is California's economic
staple. This was true in 1986 when the story was published.
Currently computers and other high tech products are the base of
the state's economy, with agriculture second.
On page 8, Willie is seen cleaning up debris in the remains of
Club Creole and Chris and Tyler are nearby as well. But,
considering the whole point of the resistance members blowing up
the restaurant in
"Reflections in Terror" was to trick Nathan Bates and his
men into believing that the resistance was destroyed and its members killed,
why would they be publicly seen cleaning up the wreckage?
Page 9 reveals that Tyler and Chris still have plans to try to
kill Nathan Bates, picking up where they left off in issues 3-6
(see "Alien Conflict").
On pages 11 and 12, we see a
portion of the mothership we've
not seen before but the area is not
identified. Perhaps an engine
room? From the view out the
window it appears to be located
in the lower section of the
On page 12, a Visitor called Joshua uses the exclamation, "Zal!"
Presumably this is a Visitor word.
Page 10 shows the L.A. mothership hovering over the city, yet on
page 11 the crashed Visitor patrol fighter is described as being
several hundred miles below the mothership! Of course,
this is just another example of the comic's ongoing
inconsistency in depiction of the L.A. mothership as being
regularly in orbit instead of hovering over L.A.
On page 16, Elias says he hasn't seen Leslie since college. From
what we know of Elias' past, I was under the impression that
he'd never attended college!
We've seen the Visitors eat fruits and vegetables before, but on
page 17 Diana reacts with disgust at the thought of it. I guess
she's just a pure carnivore!
Tyler is seen smoking a cigarette a couple times in this issue
even though we've never seen him smoke anywhere else.
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